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Sharon  Merson>>How do you think you did on the test Ann?

 

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Bill  Beck>>Hi, Ann, Sharon M., Sharon C. and Fran!

 

Sharon  Cochran>>Hi

 

Sharon  Merson>>Hi

 

Ann  Willem>>hi

 

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Bill  Beck>>How are things back in Baltimore?

 

Sharon  Merson>>ok, it will be in the 70's this weekend

 

Bill  Beck>>Golf!

 

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Sharon  Merson>>lol

 

Bill  Beck>>Hi again, Ann!

 

Ann  Willem>>opps

 

Ann  Willem>>hi

 

Carolyn  Isaac>>hi all

 

Sharon  Merson>>hi

 

Bill  Beck>>Hi, Carolyn!

 

Carolyn  Isaac>>hi bill

 

Bill  Beck>>Has everybody taken Test 2?

 

Sharon  Merson>>yes

 

Carolyn  Isaac>>yes

 

Sharon  Cochran>>Yes

 

Bill  Beck>>Piece of cake?

 

Sharon  Merson>>no

 

Carolyn  Isaac>>no

 

Sharon  Cochran>>Bope

 

Sharon  Cochran>>Nope

 

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Bill  Beck>>Hi, LIsa!

 

Ann  Willem>>i hope it was

 

Lisa  Schloer>>hi

 

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Bill  Beck>>Hi, Jaime!

 

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Jaime  Bankowski>>hello all

 

Sharon  Merson>>hello

 

Bill  Beck>>The good news is you've taken the two hardest tests!

 

Sharon  Merson>>Thank God!

 

Bill  Beck>>It's downhill from here!

 

Sharon  Cochran>>That is good to know

 

Sharon  Merson>>yes it is

 

Ann  Willem>>well last weeks homework was certainlly easier

 

Bill  Beck>>Do you realize that this is our 9th class out of 14 classes?

 

Sharon  Merson>>yup

 

Sharon  Cochran>>Yes!

 

Bill  Beck>>FLASH FLASH FLASH  The answers to this week's practice problems are on http://www.mathsoftware.com/walkthru.html

 

*+**** Nicole--Russell entered math111e_Room1. Tuesday, March 28, 2006 5:59pm

 

Nicole  Russell>>hi everyone

 

Bill  Beck>>I messed up the week 9 lesson and removed the answers to the practice problems so I posted them on my website.

 

Bill  Beck>>Hi, Nicole!

 

Bill  Beck>>According to my clock, it's time to get started.

 

Bill  Beck>>Let me know when you are on page Walk18_p1, please.

 

Lisa  Schloer>>there

 

Sharon  Merson>>there

 

Sharon  Cochran>>There

 

Carolyn  Isaac>>there

 

Nicole  Russell>>there

 

Ann  Willem>>there

 

Bill  Beck>>Last week we studied measures of central tendency.

 

Bill  Beck>>We were looking for a number we could use to represent the data.

 

Jaime  Bankowski>>here

 

Bill  Beck>>This week we're going to study Standard Deviation and Range.

 

Bill  Beck>>These are numbers (statistics) that we use to tell how tightly packed our data is.

 

Bill  Beck>>Okay, let's go to page 2,please.

 

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Bill  Beck>>Neat formula!

 

Bill  Beck>>Hi, LaDonna and Cheryl!

 

LaDonna  Parham>>hello

 

Cheryl  Bagley>>hi

 

Bill  Beck>>We are on page Walk18_p2.

 

*+**** Wendy--Riggin entered math111e_Room1. Tuesday, March 28, 2006 6:02pm

 

Bill  Beck>>Hi, Wendy!  We are on page Walk18_p;2.

 

*+**** Elaine--Sfondiles entered math111e_Room1. Tuesday, March 28, 2006 6:02pm

 

Bill  Beck>>Hi, Elaine!  We are on page Walk18_p2.

 

Elaine  Sfondiles>>k thanks!

 

Wendy  Riggin>>Hi Thanks

 

Elaine  Sfondiles>>oh professor beck once the chat is over can i speak with you?

 

Bill  Beck>>Yes, Elaine.

 

Elaine  Sfondiles>>thank you

 

Bill  Beck>>Okay, let's look at that formula.

 

Nicole  Russell>>so what number is xi? is it the sum

 

Bill  Beck>>Do you see (xi - xbar)?

 

Sharon  Merson>>yes

 

Lisa  Schloer>>yes

 

Elaine  Sfondiles>>yes

 

Sharon  Cochran>>Yes

 

Frances  Beasman>>yep

 

Wendy  Riggin>>yes

 

Ann  Willem>>yes

 

Cheryl  Bagley>>yes

 

Bill  Beck>>What we're doing is determining the "deviation from the mean."

 

Bill  Beck>>What we'd like to do is determine all of these deviations from the mean, then add them and find the "average deviation from the mean."

 

Bill  Beck>>Unfortunately, when we find all these deviations from the mean it turns out that some are negative numbers and some are positive numbers so the sum turns out to be equal to zero.

 

Bill  Beck>>Hence the squared term.

 

Bill  Beck>>What we do is square each of the deviations from the mean - that makes all of them positive.

 

Bill  Beck>>Then we add (that's what that Greek letter Sigma tells us to do).

 

Bill  Beck>>Then we divide by n-1

 

Bill  Beck>>I'll get back to that later.

 

Bill  Beck>>And lastly, we take the square root of our answer.

 

Bill  Beck>>So we squared them and the took the square root so we're approximately back where we started - APPROXIMATELY.

 

Bill  Beck>>It turns out that this number, s, is called the standard deviation and it gives us a number (statistic) that we can use when comparing the density of various sets of data.

 

Bill  Beck>>Now, how about that n-1 in the denominator.

 

Bill  Beck>>If we wanted a "mean deviation from the mean" we should be dividing by n

 

Bill  Beck>>-But this semester we are going to be studying samples of data and it turns out that if we divide by n-1 we get a better estimate of the standard deviation of the population.

 

Bill  Beck>>For example,  the set of all students taking MATH 111 at CCBC is our population and the students in my class would be a sample from this population.

 

Elaine  Sfondiles>>then what is the benefit of dividing by n versus n-1?

 

Bill  Beck>>The set of college students in Maryland might be our population and the students attending Towson U would be a sample space.

 

Bill  Beck>>Okay?

 

Sharon  Merson>>ok

 

Bill  Beck>>Good question, Elaine.

 

Bill  Beck>>Much better mathmeticians than I could prove that when we divide by n-1 we get a better estimate of the population standard deviation.

 

Bill  Beck>>I accept their proof and pass it along to my students as fact!

 

Elaine  Sfondiles>>nice!

 

Bill  Beck>>We'll use n-1 since we are using a sample standard deviation to predict the population standard deviation.

 

Bill  Beck>>Whew

 

Sharon  Cochran>>My head is spinning

 

Sharon  Merson>>mine too

 

Bill  Beck>>If we were studying populations, we'd divide by n

 

Bill  Beck>>The good news is you just need to use the formula.

 

Bill  Beck>>Okay, let's go to page 3, please.

 

Elaine  Sfondiles>>all these formulas are confusing. the complements formulas really threw me for a loop

 

Nicole  Russell>>There is a shorter way... right?

 

Nicole  Russell>>what happens when n=100, we are not going to have to do that

 

Bill  Beck>>Yes, Nicole, but we won't cover it this semester.  We're only going to spend one night on standard deviation, so this is the only formula we'll cover.

 

Nicole  Russell>>ok

 

Bill  Beck>>None of our sample will be that big, Nicole.

 

Nicole  Russell>>ok

 

Bill  Beck>>Okay, on page 3, we've subtracted the mean from each of our scores in our sample.

 

Bill  Beck>>We've got our deviations from the mean.

 

Bill  Beck>>Go to page 4,please.

 

Wendy  Riggin>>why does n=5?

 

Bill  Beck>>There are 5 items in our sample, Wendy.

 

Wendy  Riggin>>sorry!

 

Bill  Beck>>Okay, go to page 5, please.

 

Bill  Beck>>A little algebra.

 

Bill  Beck>>Go to page 6, please.

 

Bill  Beck>>Go to page 7, please.

 

Bill  Beck>>Go to page 8, please.

 

Bill  Beck>>So the standard deviation for this sample space is approximately 2.24.

 

Bill  Beck>>Let me remind you that a sample space of size 5 is not really big enough to predict anything about the population, but it's easier for us to use in a chat room.

 

Bill  Beck>>Okay, let's go to the next walkthru, please.

 

Wendy  Riggin>>ok

 

Sharon  Merson>>ok

 

Bill  Beck>>Let me know when you are on page Walk19_p1, please.

 

Sharon  Merson>>there

 

Lisa  Schloer>>there

 

Ann  Willem>>ok

 

Sharon  Cochran>>There

 

Nicole  Russell>>ok

 

Carolyn  Isaac>>ok

 

LaDonna  Parham>>there

 

Cheryl  Bagley>>there

 

Bill  Beck>>OUr scores are 0, 1, 2, and 3.

 

Elaine  Sfondiles>>k

 

Bill  Beck>>The column headed by fi is the frequencies of these scores.

 

Bill  Beck>>Since we need to find x - xbar, we must first determine the mean, xbar.

 

Bill  Beck>>Go to page 2,please.

 

Bill  Beck>>This is similar to last week's lesson.

 

Bill  Beck>>Go to page 3,please.

 

Bill  Beck>>So there are 40 scores.  This is a good sized sample.

 

Bill  Beck>>Go to page 4, please.

 

Bill  Beck>>THe sum of our scores is 75

 

Bill  Beck>>Go to page 5, please.

 

Bill  Beck>>I've rounded the mean off to 2-decimal places.

 

Bill  Beck>>Now we need to determine the deviations from the mean.

 

Bill  Beck>>Go to page 6, please.

 

Bill  Beck>>0-1.88 = -1.88

 

Bill  Beck>>Don't forget the negative sign!

 

Bill  Beck>>Go to page 7, please.

 

Bill  Beck>>1 - 1.88 = -.88

 

Bill  Beck>>Go to page 8, please.

 

Bill  Beck>>Go to page 9, please.

 

Bill  Beck>>These are our deviations from the mean.  Now we need to make these deviations positive.

 

Bill  Beck>>Go to page 10, please.

 

Bill  Beck>>(-1.88)(-1.88) = 3.53

 

Bill  Beck>>Okay?

 

Elaine  Sfondiles>>...k

 

Sharon  Cochran>>yes

 

Cheryl  Bagley>>ok

 

Lisa  Schloer>>k

 

Bill  Beck>>Go to page 11, please.

 

Wendy  Riggin>>yes

 

Carolyn  Isaac>>ok

 

Bill  Beck>>Go to page 12,please.

 

Bill  Beck>>Go to page 13, please.

 

Jaime  Bankowski>>are we rounding to a whole number

 

Nicole  Russell>>How do we get 3.53 again

 

Bill  Beck>>No, we're going to round off to 2-decimal places.

 

Jaime  Bankowski>>would we put 38.44 or just 38

 

Bill  Beck>>(-1.88)(-1.88)  =  3.53

 

Nicole  Russell>>got it, sorry

 

Bill  Beck>>Actually, we know that the product of two negative numbers is positive, so we could just use (1.88)(1.88)

 

Bill  Beck>>Okay, go to page 14, please.

 

Bill  Beck>>Now we are going to take into account that there are 6 of these deviations of size -1.88

 

Bill  Beck>>Go to page 15, please.

 

Bill  Beck>>And that there are 8 of these deviations of size -.88

 

Bill  Beck>>Go to page 16, please.

 

Bill  Beck>>Go to page 17, please.

 

Bill  Beck>>Now we're ready for our fomula.

 

Bill  Beck>>formula

 

Bill  Beck>>Go to page 18, please.

 

Bill  Beck>>WE need to add those numbers.

 

Bill  Beck>>Go to page 19, please.

 

Bill  Beck>>Here's our "grouped data" formula.

 

Jaime  Bankowski>>how did we get the 46.20

 

Bill  Beck>>We added 21.18+6.16+.11+18.75

 

Bill  Beck>>That's what that Greek letter Sigma tells us to do - add.

 

Jaime  Bankowski>>i got a higher number

 

Bill  Beck>>Go to page 20, please.

 

Bill  Beck>>Plug and chug

 

Jaime  Bankowski>>im getting 57.09

 

Jaime  Bankowski>>oh .11

 

Jaime  Bankowski>>haha

 

Bill  Beck>>Go to page 21,please.

 

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Bill  Beck>>So according to our calculations, we predict that the standard deviation for the population is 1.09

 

Bill  Beck>>With me?

 

Sharon  Merson>>I get 1.18?

 

Nicole  Russell>>yes

 

Sharon  Cochran>>yep

 

Wendy  Riggin>>yes

 

Elaine  Sfondiles>>kinda

 

Cheryl  Bagley>>1.18

 

Bill  Beck>>Sharon, you need to take the square root of 1.18

 

Bill  Beck>>The square root of 1.18 is 1.09

 

Bill  Beck>>Okay?

 

Cheryl  Bagley>>got it

 

Frances  Beasman>>okay here

 

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Lisa  Schloer>>yes

 

Sharon  Cochran>>yes

 

Sharon  Merson>>now I get it thanks

 

Elaine  Sfondiles>>oh ok now i got it

 

Bill  Beck>>On the test, I'll supply the table and the formulas, you need to supply a calculator!

 

Sharon  Cochran>>Good

 

Bill  Beck>>Okay, let's go to the last walkthru for tonight.

 

Elaine  Sfondiles>>good

 

Wendy  Riggin>>ok

 

Carolyn  Isaac>>thereok

 

Sharon  Merson>>there

 

Sharon  Cochran>>there

 

Nicole  Russell>>there

 

Lisa  Schloer>>ok

 

Elaine  Sfondiles>>k

 

Ann  Willem>>ok

 

Bill  Beck>>This is a very powerful theorem, although it has very limited applications.

 

Bill  Beck>>NOTE NOTE NOTE this theorem can be appied only when k is greater than one.

 

Bill  Beck>>If k = 1, you can't apply this theorem.

 

Bill  Beck>>If k is less than 1, you can't apply this theorem.

 

Elaine  Sfondiles>>what would you use it it was one?

 

Bill  Beck>>I'll bet a penny there's a homework problem where this fact is important.

 

Bill  Beck>>We don't have a theorem for that case, Elaine.

 

Elaine  Sfondiles>>ok

 

Sharon  Merson>>ok

 

Bill  Beck>>Okay, let's go to page 2, please.

 

Bill  Beck>>Go to page 3, please.

 

Bill  Beck>>Go to page 4,please.

 

Bill  Beck>>Go to page 5, please.

 

Bill  Beck>>Go to page 6, please.

 

Bill  Beck>>Now let's look at a couple of examples.

 

Bill  Beck>>Suppose I have a distribution with standard deviation 5

 

Bill  Beck>>And let's suppose our mean is 8

 

Bill  Beck>>8 + 2(5)  =  8 + 10  =  18

 

Bill  Beck>>8 - 2(5)  =  8 - 10  =  -2

 

Bill  Beck>>According to Chebyshev, 75% of our scores will fall between -2 and 18

 

Bill  Beck>>Okay?

 

Elaine  Sfondiles>>k

 

Bill  Beck>>He doesn't need to see your scores.  If the mean is 8 and the standard deviation is 5, then he knows that 75% of the scores lie between -2 and 18

 

Bill  Beck>>Let's look at one more example.

 

Nicole  Russell>>little lost here... where did the 2 come from

 

Bill  Beck>>2 standard deviations from the mean.  k = 2

 

Bill  Beck>>Okay?

 

Nicole  Russell>>so i can put any number there just as long it is more than 1

 

Bill  Beck>>Yes.

 

Bill  Beck>>And since we put in k=2, we're going to work with that value of k.

 

Bill  Beck>>Once again, Chebyshev says "at least 75% of the scores will lie within 2 standard deviations of the mean."

 

Nicole  Russell>>ok

 

Bill  Beck>>Now suppose s = 3 and xbar = 21

 

Bill  Beck>>21 + 2(3)  =  21 + 6 = 27

 

Bill  Beck>>21 - 2(3) = 21 - 6  =  15

 

Nicole  Russell>>got it

 

Bill  Beck>>So Chebyshev says at least 75% of the scores will lie between 15 and 27.

 

Bill  Beck>>And he has never seen your scores!

 

Bill  Beck>>Clever fellow.

 

Bill  Beck>>Okay, let's go to page 7, please.

 

Bill  Beck>>Go to page 8, please.

 

Bill  Beck>>A picture is worth a thousand words.

 

Bill  Beck>>Go to page 9, please.

 

Bill  Beck>>Go to page 10, please.

 

Bill  Beck>>The mean is 30 and both 20 and 40 are 10 units from the mean.

 

Bill  Beck>>Our next question is, "how many standard deviations is 10"?

 

Bill  Beck>>In other words, if one standard deviation is 4, how many standard deviations is 10?

 

Bill  Beck>>Go to page 11,please.

 

Bill  Beck>>With me?

 

Nicole  Russell>>yes

 

Elaine  Sfondiles>>yes

 

Wendy  Riggin>>sure

 

Ann  Willem>>ok

 

Bill  Beck>>Okay, let's go to page 12,please.

 

Bill  Beck>>Go to page 13,please.

 

Bill  Beck>>Go to page 14,please.

 

Bill  Beck>>Go to page 15,please.

 

Bill  Beck>>Go to page 17, please.

 

Bill  Beck>>So 84% of the scores lie between 20 and 40

 

Bill  Beck>>Without seeing any of the scores!

 

Bill  Beck>>Okay, Class, this might take a little time to sink in.

 

Bill  Beck>>Any questions?

 

Sharon  Merson>>yeah

 

Elaine  Sfondiles>>none i can think of right now

 

Nicole  Russell>>yes

 

Sharon  Merson>>nope

 

Lisa  Schloer>>not yet

 

Sharon  Cochran>>I need to think about it

 

Bill  Beck>>Shoot

 

Carolyn  Isaac>>no

 

Bill  Beck>>What's your question, Sharon M.?

 

Nicole  Russell>>How do you find the range in first example

 

Sharon  Merson>>yeah to the time to sink in

 

Bill  Beck>>The range is the difference between the biggest score and the smallest score.

 

Ann  Willem>>What is a real life application of this lesson today

 

Bill  Beck>>Do you have a question, Nicole?

 

Sharon  Merson>>I like range...it's easy

 

Nicole  Russell>>thanks, you answered it

 

Bill  Beck>>When you read professional journals in your field, you'll find applications of standard deviation.

 

Bill  Beck>>Sociology, nursing, etc.

 

Ann  Willem>>is it like room for error

 

Bill  Beck>>I don't understand your question, Ann.

 

Ann  Willem>>i am not sure i can explain it either

 

Bill  Beck>>I guess you could loosely think of standard deviation as "plus minus error."

 

Sharon  Merson>>Ann, I think it's like is the average accurate

 

Bill  Beck>>Very loosely, Ann.

 

Ann  Willem>>ok thats what i meant

 

Bill  Beck>>Now I understand, Ann. 

 

Nicole  Russell>>Mr. beck any way I can speak to you

 

Bill  Beck>>Okay, Class, that's it for tonight.

 

Bill  Beck>>Any questions?

 

Sharon  Merson>>Thanks

 

Sharon  Cochran>>Bye

 

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Bill  Beck>>G'night

 

Sharon  Merson>>nite

 

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Lisa  Schloer>>good night all

 

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Wendy  Riggin>>Thanks Bill Goodnight

 

Cheryl  Bagley>>good nite

 

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Carolyn  Isaac>>G'night, until next week

 

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Bill  Beck>>Okay, Class, G'night!

 

Ann  Willem>>nite

 

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